You've been involved in a number of Bar committees, but I wonder, I'm
particularly interested if you have occasion to work with younger
barristers or in terms of, say, the Readers' Course, what sorts of
advice do you give people starting out at the Bar or in their early
years at the Bar?
Well, I actually taught advocacy at Monash University for seven years
and I was on the Bar Council for a number of years, I've lost track of
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